As there is a memorial of the Auschwitz tragedy, I again checked and slightly revised my calculations. None of the main conclusions have changed. Notice that this calculation concerns only the total death toll. The numbers of registered prisoners and registered deaths in concentration camps are exactly as in the official explanation. Consequently, the death ratios, survival times and all such measures for each camp are as in the official explanation. It follows that this calculation of the total death toll is not in contradiction with the eyewitness statements of most inmates in, say, Auschwitz: in that camp the question has always been only of a very large number of deaths of unregistered Jewish prisoners in the official explanation. Hardly any registered prisoners in the camp could know of the fate of these unregistered people from his/her own experience.
The changes are:
1) I reduced the Jewish death toll in German-Austrian concentration camps from 300,000 to 160,000 as I found some more data.
2) I am now more confident than before that Walter Sanning’s claim that million or more (I say 1 million) immigrated to the USA before the war (Sanning says from Eastern Poland, but I think the error in AJY data appears in the Ukraine Jewish population of 1939. These Jews were indeed Jews of the former Eastern Poland).
The changes are in the following posts. The post giving the proof that the Auschwitz Jewish death toll is false:
How many Jews can have died in Auschwitz?
The second post giving the proof that the Jewish AJY figures give the total death toll of 4.5 million, not 6 million, and that at least 200,000 Jews survived the three Operation Reinhardt camps, meaning that this part of the official story is also false:
Did anyone survive Operation Reinhard camps?
And finally the post that, together with the post of the American Jewish population growth, shows that the Soviet population figure for 1939 is one million too large. The post also explains why it is likely that the Soviet Jewish population figure in 1948 is about one million too small and consequently the actual Jewish death toll is about 2.5 million:
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Hi j2, speculative question on the transport of Jews (as a primary objective of the NWO war). If Stalin had struck first (either in ‘41 or probably’42), how would this transfer have been effected? Presumably there would have been backlash against Jewish-dominated communist parties installed by the Soviets, leading to something like mass emigration. How do you see it?
Hi Mighty. A good question, but I do not quite understand why there would have been a backlash against Jewish-dominated parties if Stalin had attacked. Do you mean that had Stalin attacked, he would have lost? I think this is true, but I guess you do not mean that. Had Stalin won, there had been more Jewish-dominated communist parties. But I answer like this:
1) Stalin had Soviet troops in attack positions and was possibly considering an attack, but Soviets were after the WWII all the time ready for an attack to Western Europe and never did it. It may also be that the attack positions at that time were, just as later, a strategic choice of answering an attack to the SU by an immediate attack to the West by larger troops. You probably know that later the Soviet Union had the plan of attacking Europe in case the USA starts by a nuclear attack to the SU. This was essentially defensive, as the main goal was to save Soviet troops from immediate destruction by pushing them to areas where nuclear weapons against them could not be used as Soviets are too close to Western troops/civilians. I very much doubt that Hitler attacked the Soviet Union because of an armed threat. The threat was spread of communism through agitators and starting partisan activity in the target country, like in Vietnam, like in Cuba. Not spreading Communism by a direct armed attack of the Soviet Union.
2) Hitler had decided attacking the Soviet Union before the Winter War in Finland ended, as he promised Finns that they can make a peace and there will be a new war. When the war finally started in June 1941, Finns thought it started too late (for the winter). Again, I do not think there was a serious threat of Stalin attacking first. Communism was a serious threat, but this threat for Hitler was coming from Jews in European countries allowing Communists to make a takeover in the usual way, like Liebknecht and Luxemburg tried in Germany. That is why Jews had to be transported away from Europe, i.e., the demands of Zionists had to be fulfilled and Jews had to be taken to Palestine, else they would help Communists to take over.
3) But assuming that Hitler did fear of Stalin’s attack. Why would he have transported Jews to the East? In order to transport Jews to the east, Hitler had to be fairly sure that there was a place under German control in the East where he could transport the Jews. Thus, Hitler had to assume that Germans will manage to occupy a large part of the Soviet Union. This must have followed from the military plans because Finns also joined the attack. The plans, and the corresponding calculations of military strength, must have shown that in the beginning Germans will succeed to take at least East Poland and basically they must have suggested that Germany will occupy Moscow and force Communists to a peace or replace them. If this was not the case, how Germany got Finns, Hungarians and Romanians to join the attack? Thus, Hitler did not consider this as a real alternative. This is why he could plan moving Jews to the East.
4) From 3) follows that had Stalin attacked before Hitler attacked in 1941, the Soviet Union would have lost. What 3) means is that the military strength was on the German side and there was no way for the Soviets to stand the attack when it started in June 1941, consequently, there was no way Stalin could have attacked Germany in 1941 before Hitler.
5) But what Hitler did fear was that Stalin could have attacked Romania before June 1941 and taken Romanian oil fields. That would have made the German attack impossible. This was a risk, but Stalin did not attack Romania.
6) But assuming that Stalin had attacked in 1941 or 1942 and Hitler had not attacked, then what would be the result? If they had had some military surprise and been successful, they would have occupied new areas and set there Communistic republics with Jews in leading positions. Maybe some Jews would have escaped to the West, but I do not see any reason why especially Jews would have escaped. Many people would have tried to escape. But this is one reason why Communists preferred take over countries by infiltration. There was a case of Vietnam, some South Vietnamese escaped, most could not. Would Stalin then have tried to transport Jews to Palestine? I think not, he tried to move them to far East, but they did not want to go, so Stalin died out of rat poison. (But naturally it was not the Jewish doctor plot. It was just Stalin’s paranoia of being poisoned by Jews because of his transfer plans, and then he was poisoned by some completely different people for no reason at all.)
7) If moving Jews to the East (and out of Europe can only mean Palestine) was not the main reason for the war, why Hitler wanted to move Jews anywhere from countries he did not intend to keep, like France, Holland, Belgium? Why not put them to camps if you want to internate them, and use them for building the western wall, or something else for military? But Hitler wanted to move Jews, not only those fit to work but all. And they were to be moved out of Europe. Because for Hitler Jews were the problem: it was Jews who pushed Communism, it was Jews who owned the banks. It was either Zionism or Communism, and if so, it had to be Zionism as it was better to give Palestine to Jews than to have Communism in your country. And this is why it is useless to ask whether Poland provoked Germany to attack. Poland had 3 million Jews. They had to be moved. If Poland did not want to join Hitler in the attack to the Soviet Union and accept that its Jews are forcibly moved, Hitler had to attack Poland and move the Jews.
I see it like this.
Thanks for the detailed response, a lot to digest there. Although, I thought you agreed with the Suvorov thesis? It seems not entirely, from some of your comments here.
My question actually relates to your posts on whether Hitler lost the war on purpose, and the curious (Masonic) origins of the Nazi party. There, it seems that Hitler was actually a pawn of the NWO, helping to bring about globalism through the establishment of Israel. In this case, the same forces controlling him would be controlling the other wartime leaders, like Stalin (unless he was in fact some kind of “national communist”, which I find unlikely). So, his war objectives regarding the Jews, namely transport to Palestine, would have bee similar to Hitler’s, except that he could not have employed harsh measure like deportation etc. So I wonder what he would have done instead.
I agree with Suvorov’s thesis that Stalin had the troops in attack positions. Stalin had got a warning from Sorge with the time of the attack. Possibly Stalin did not ignore the warning and incorrectly believed he could answer the German attack with a fast counterattack. I do not know, but I doubt Soviets could have stopped the initial phase of the attack. Soviets had done poorly in the Winter War. There was no reason to expect that they could in 1941 win an attack war. They needed time to train troops and build tanks and airplanes.
Stalin did expel and kill Trotsky, who for certain was a globalist communist with NWO connections, and Stalin was poisoned. I think he could have been a bonapartist, as the (possibly fabricated but despite of that possibly correct in many things) Red Symphony claims. A bonapartist is like Napoleon III (who was a Carbonari and then a Carbonari tried to kill him because Luis Napoleon did not do all what Carbonaries wanted), i.e., wanting to play his own game and forget his masters. Stalin was not Russian, so he hardly was a Russian nationalist, but he could have wanted to be the Tsar. Jewish communists mostly did not want to go to Palestine (some did like Moses Hess, but that is not correct communism). There were different fractions among Jews:communist Jews wanted to forget Torah and to assimilate and yet to rule as the intellectual communistic elite. This is not what pro-Zionists (Masons and bankers) wanted, nor what Herzl’s Zionists wanted. Baron de Rothschild had bought land in Palestine, another Rothschild got the Balfour declaration, Jews had got the USA to WWI, yet they did not force the USA to take Jews threatened by Hitler. This means only that the Jewish money (and its soulmate, Freemasons) did want Israel and Jews to Israel. Stalin did intend to send Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in the 30ies and it took the war to have Stalin agree on the creation of Israel, but he still did not let Jews leave the Soviet Union. Probably he would not have been poisoned had he allowed Jews to move to Israel after the war, so he still wanted to move them to Birobidzhan.